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Jason Black says,
in 4-10-2008 @ 13:40:45    

There is no doubt that tax policy has grown complex and unwieldy to the point of absurdity. To my way of seeing it, this is a large part of the Libertarian viewpoint, as you imply: “if it has to be this complicated, then clearly we’d be better off without it entirely.” It is an emotionally, if not rationally, understandable viewpoint.

However, that does not mean that taxation in and of itself is a bad thing. What the Libertarian viewpoint fails to do is two-fold. First, it fails to separate the symptom of crazy tax rules and regulation from the underlying concept of taxes. The two are most definitely not inextricable from one another. I doubt you’ll get much argument from anybody that the two should, in fact, be extricated from one another post haste!

Second, the Libertarian viewpoint, by casting the role of government as an entity whose sole purpose is to burden society with crazy tax rules and other limitations on personal freedom, fails to recognize that it is tax revenue which supports the very necessary infrastructure on which our society exists. It fails to recognize that together, by each pitching in a bit of money, we can collectively buy assets that are a) incredibly useful and valuable, and b) significantly more expensive than any of us could ever buy on our own. Roads. Clean city drinking water systems. Police. Fire protection. Municipal waste water treatment.

It’s a long list, and together it’s the infrastructure of our comfortable, safe, first-world lives that none of us would really choose to do without. There’s a reason so many states have the word “commonwealth” as part of their names–because together, via taxation that is responsibly managed and spent for the good of all, we can build a “common wealth” that is greater than what we could each achieve on our own.

Libertarianism tends to focus on the problems of implementation (of which there are indisputably many) to the exclusion of the hugely positive end goal. The rational response is to focus on fixing the implementation, not to throw the baby out with the bathwater.

John Spaith says,
in 4-10-2008 @ 16:49:34    

Before I become a Libertarian, I was actually thinking about why this law is the way it is and there may be a good reason. I’m not a tax lawyer, this is all speculative.

I can imagine someone once went out and bought a 30K truck for their own personal uses. At the end of the tax season they decided they wanted a write off, so they drove the truck to a forest, shot a squirrel, put the dead squirrel in the truck, stuffed it, and then donated it to a local school. And who doesn’t want a dead squirrel!

Then they said, “I had to spend 30K for the donation since I couldn’t do it without the truck.”

Clearly it’s ridiculous. The fair market value of gift would prevent them from pulling something like that in the 1st place. But… I bet at some point some stupid tax lawyer made the argument for a client along those lines above and the IRS didn’t want to deal with him anymore, so they made the 25 page manual a 26 page manual the next year to stop someone from pulling it.

I should just stick to public speaking.

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